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   One of the many keys to understanding IS the very need

  to acknowledge the concept of ...


  seeking less and less

  ... about more and more

  NOT more and more ...

  about less and less in

  concert with FULLER 4D




  "Only MIND can discover how to do so much with so little as

   forever to be able to sustain and physically satisfy all humanity.

   Specialization tends to shut off the wide-band tuning searches and

   thus to preclude further discovery. It is also mistakenly assumed that

   employment is the only means by which humans can earn the right to

   live, for politicians have yet to discover how much wealth is available

   for distribution. All this is rationalized on the now scientifically

   discredited premise that there can never be enough life support for all.

   Thus humanity’s specialization leads only toward warring and such

   devastating tools, both, visible and invisible, as ultimately to destroy

   all ParthiansIt is eminently feasible not only to provide full life support

   for all humans but also to permit all humans’ individual enjoyment of all

   the Earth without anyone profiting at the expense of another and without

   any individuals interfering with others."

                 Buckminster Fuller • Manifesto for the Genius of Generalists

  Driven by the design philosophy of more for less - 

                                 Richard BUCKMINSTER FULLER 
- worked

  simultaneously on plans for houses, cars, boats, games, TV

  transmitters and geodesic domes, all of which were designed

  to be mass-produced using the simplest and most sustainable 

  means possible.





and as James Dyson has recently stated - 


there can be no better UNDERSTANDING than -




"In the instant of our first breath, we are infused with the single greatest force in the universe - the power to translate the possibilities of our minds into the reality of our world. To fully awaken our power, however, requires a subtle change in the way we think of ourselves in life, a SHIFT in BELIEF" -

The Spontaneous Healing of Belief - Gregg Braden



As Julian Rose says in his epic - Changing Course for Life; Local Solutions

to Global Problems - To understand one another, involves opening our

receptors at the emotional, spiritual and intuitive levels and then

responding from these same levels. Only then can we start truly

understanding and communicating with one another.

FOR those that understand no explanation is necessary
FOR those that don't understand no explanation will suffice.
First published by Michael Grove @zaadz 10th June 2006


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S.I.A. : Sam I Am

8 days later

S.I.A. said

So true & so simply stated (eloquent you might say)! :o)

seek less about more
all i know is i don’t know
not more about less

Michael : catalyst-producer

10 days later

Michael said

Watch this space !

Eileen : DivinelyFem

15 days later

Eileen said

Love it.
Couldn't have said it better,
nor would I use up the energy trying.

3 months later

yosyama said

some of them can be easily evolve to visual wording or 'standards'

Joy Bringer : Visionary Creator & Artivist

7 months later

Joy Bringer said

We understand, yet we keep seeking…

Thank YOU for letting us know in silence …

& in such beauty & wisdom…

Michael : catalyst-producer

about 1 year later

Michael said

INSIGHT arises

Michael : catalyst-producer

about 1 year later

Michael said

To realize that you do not understand is a virtue …
Not to realize that you do not understand is a defect.

Lao Tzu

Michael : catalyst-producer

about 1 year later

Michael said

… and as ever - TIME to THINK - IS of THE MOST paramount importance

Michael : catalyst-producer

about 1 year later

Michael said

… an example indeed of the wisdom of understanding of “more for less”

or as Leonardo da Vinci said "the JOY of understanding -

THAT IS the most noblest of pleasures"

clyde : muse muser

about 1 year later

clyde said

I did lots and lots of seeking to get where I am today. which is to say, somwhere and of course nowhere. It was pretty effortful for sure.

part of that saying has to do with the effort and striving, correct? About desperation.

This is not as much an understanding, as it is a destination to where the
NEED to desperately seek becomes a natural flow where not only do we
have a natural process of gaining information and seeing the world, but
it COMES naturally to us. I'm thinking a development of what is called
'vision logic' helps here. the internal reprsentation of the whole
which more or less naturally gives, as does an endless font. And at
this point, we turn to maintainance and comfortable research of the

I also think there were times in my life that looked 'selfish'. Sort of how we start out. At that time, this was also
good. Only to turn that one around as well, or to balance it.

Seeking less and less is more a function of being and becoming than
understanding as i see it. The result of hard work. Of an arduous
journey of an adventurer. of a seeker. that hard work eventually
rewarded with 'natural' wonder and 'natural' processes of experiencing.

Just my understanding

great quote michael

Michael : catalyst-producer

about 1 year later

Michael said

Part of that saying has to do with the effort and striving, correct? -

YES - and I would say …

About an understanding of the need to desperately seek - a natural flow where not only do we have a natural process of gaining information and seeing the world, but it COMES naturally to us.

THE problem that the transformed scientific rational & logical quantum wholeness mindset has in letting go of the obsession with reductionist theory

can be simply rectified as a result of an understanding that THE property of far-from-equilibrium chaos IS that it contains the possibility of self-organisation … and thus from chaos order arises as befits the natural flow…

clyde : muse muser

about 1 year later

clyde said

science is about the examination of smaller phemonon and the attempt to prove larger theories. Does that some it up? Micro and macro?

But…until it becomes truly inclusive, it will be forever lost. It MUST have a
holistic understanding of things, rather than in the vacuums their
information often comes. Whether it be with smaller phenomenon, or the
inability to use a truly cross disciplinary approach.

I see the problem as not only reductionist, but compartmentalization. And a
large point here is that this is what we as humans tend to emulate.

Informed processes (multiple perspectives) are the way of the mature
individual. It should be the way of the mature science as well.
Mature governance, education, etc.

So…reductionist and rigid or simply uninformed.

As far as the 'seeking less and less about more and more'. To me this is
about the inspiriation. From desperation, no. From wonder and awe,
yes. From a natural awe and wonder, curiosity and fascination.
But…the seeking our of desperation is an issue. I guess the flip side
of that is that we have to also have or aquire an open mind. And I
think I've found that the more I find, the more I realize a) there is
to find and b) the increasing value of those finds. The inherent
meaning and substance of them. All that increases both an open mind
and the wonder, fascination, and the awe to naturally move forward at a
pace which is relaxed and contented, yet eager.

one very fascinating thing for me is the talk of balance. I find there are at
least 10 very signficant things to balance. Eagerness and
excedness/peace and contentedness, would be one of those. The very
fascinating part of that is WHERE does that balance belong? We talk of
balance yet we have very little idea what we are trying to balance
beyond the basics of such things as work and play. We talk of balance,
yet we have very little idea where those balances lie. Even worse, we
have very little intimate sense of just what those polars are.
Obviously making balancing a challenge.

Michael : catalyst-producer

about 1 year later

Michael said

Artemisilke : Authentic

over 2 years later

Artemisilke said

:-) :-) :-)



Michael : catalyst-producer

over 3 years later

Michael said

“When faced with a radical crisis, when the old way of being in the world, of interacting with each other and with the realm of nature doesn't work any more, when survival is threatened by insurmountable problems, an individual human - or a species - will either die or become extinct or rise above their limitations with an evolutionary leap

THIS IS the state of humanity now, and THIS IS ITS CHALLENGE

Eckhart Tolle

In the context of the underlying influence of both Dr. Carl Gustav Jung and
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
on the rapid global-wide collective acceptance of

the Transition Initiative; and Eckhart Tolle's statement above …

NO better UNDERSTANDING has been manifested than by Albert Einstein in his own words

“ANY intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more
violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move
in the opposite direction.”

Artemisilke : Authentic

over 3 years later

Artemisilke said

..”rise above their limitations with an evolutionary leap…. ” and with a “touch of genius”

OH YES.. that sounds about right!

Michael : catalyst-producer

over 3 years later

Michael said

as Barbara Marx Hubbard has said …

THE ONLY SOLUTION is our own conscious evolution

” This awakening has gained momentum as 3 new understandings have arisen:

: This is the recent discovery that the universe has been and is now evolving. As Brian Swimme puts it, “time is experienced as an evolutionary sequence of irreversible transformations,” rather than as ever-renewing cycles.

Our New Crises
: We are faced with a complex set of crises, most especially environmental. We are participating in a global system that is far from equilibrium, conditions that are known to favor a
 macroshift. This kind of dramatic repatterning can be a sudden shift toward devolution and chaos, or it can be an evolution toward a higher more complex order. At this moment in evolution the outcome depends on our choices, and time is running out. We must change, or suffer dire consequences. Our crises are acting as evolutionary drivers pressuring us to innovate and transform.

Our New Capacities
: The advent of radical evolutionary technologies such as biotechnology, nano-technology, quantum computing, space exploration, etc., offer us the possibility of profound change in the physical world. At the same time that we are facing the possible destruction of our life support systems, we can also see that the tools are there to transform ourselves, our bodies and our world. We can and are actually moving beyond the creature human condition toward a new species, a universal humanity, capable of co-evolving with nature.

3 understandings that are referred to as the 3 C’s

Michael : catalyst-producer

over 3 years later

Michael said

We begin by noting that all objects in space-time emit waves of specific frequencies. The wave fields radiate from the objects that produce them, and when the wave field emanating from an object encounters another object, a part of it is reflected from that object, and a part is absorbed by it. The impacted object becomes energized and creates a wave field that moves back toward the object that emitted the initial wave field. The interference of the initial and the response wave fields creates an overall pattern, and this pattern carries information on the objects that created the wave fields.

The resulting interference pattern is effectively a hologram. It is also known that the information carried in a hologram is available at all points where the constitutive wave fields penetrate. It can be transferred from hologram to hologram if they resonate at the same frequency, or at compatible frequencies.
We now add that things in space and time are embedded in the electromagnetic field, and the waves they emit are electromagnetic waves. However, according to the new conceptions, objects in space-time are also embedded in the physical vacuum, and the waves they emit in that deeper dimension are not electromagnetic waves, but waves of a different kind, most likely scalar waves (scalars are longitudinal rather than transverse waves that travel at velocities proportional to the transmitting medium—the same as sound waves, the more dense the
medium, the faster they propagate). The interference patterns of scalar waves constitute holograms that superpose and conserve information. This information can be transferred among holograms resonating at
compatible frequency domains

The above concept offers an explanatory framework for the nonlocal exchange
of information among objects in space-time at all scales of magnitude

Ervin Laszlo

Michael : catalyst-producer

over 3 years later

Michael said

To make SENSE of your understanding make the right connections

Michael : catalyst-producer

over 3 years later

Michael said

Aside from clarifying his language and understanding of what is meant by a life form, James Lovelock himself ascribes most of the criticism to a lack of understanding of non-linear mathematics by his critics, and a linearizing form of greedy reductionism in which all events have to be immediately ascribed to specific causes before the fact.

He notes also that his theory suggests experiments in many different fields, but few of them in biology which most of his critics are trained in. “I'm a general practitioner in a world where there's nothing but specialists… science in the last two centuries has tended to be ever-dividing” and often rivalrous, especially for funding which Lovelock describes as overly abundant and overly focused on institutions rather than original thought.

He points out that Richard Feynman not only shared this opinion (coining the term cargo cult science) but also accepted a lack of general cause and effect explanation as an inevitable phase in a theory's development, and believed that some self-regulating phenomena may not be explainable at all mathematically.

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Comment by Michael Grove on October 26, 2011 at 12:02



Where do THE REALLY GOOD ideas come from NOW?


as of 11/11/2011 - THE very best IDEAS come from HERE
Comment by Michael Grove on July 24, 2012 at 9:02

THE highest form of ignorance is when you

reject something you don't know anything about 

Truth beckons INDEED



Comment by Michael Grove on December 7, 2013 at 8:21

This in turn suggests that we need to channel our communicative energies in a more economical and thoughtful way; learn to recognise that 'chatter' is a form of waste, just like over-packaged foods. Indeed chattering aimlessly is a form of vocal pollution. This equally applies to radio, television and the written word. 

The 'media' should be the standard setters for the art of communication, not polluters of 

The danger is all to apparent, if we corrupt our means of communication, we will ultimately fail to understand our own roots and cultural heritage, and we will also ultimately fail to understand ourselves.

Comment by Michael Grove on July 10, 2020 at 9:02

Whoever wrote THIS [IS] BANG ON !!

“We fell asleep in one world, and woke up in another. Suddenly Disney is out of magic, Paris is no longer magic, New York doesn’t stand up anymore, the Chinese wall is no longer a fortress and Mecca is empty. Hugs & Kisses suddenly become weapons, and not visiting parents and friends becomes an act of LOVE. Suddenly you realise that power, beauty and mo are worthless and can’t get you the oxygen you’re fighting for. The world continues [IT]s LIFE and it [IS] BEAUTIFUL.

[IT] only puts humans in cages. I think [IT]’s sending us a message “You are not necessary. The air, earth, water and sky without you are fine. When you come back, remember that you are my guests, NOT MY MASTERS.”

WHAT [IS] IS and sure aint NO [IS]er !!

Comment by Michael Grove on August 2, 2020 at 12:22

Comment by Michael Grove on September 2, 2020 at 18:39

The creative process is not just iterative; it’s also recursive. It plays out “in the large” and “in the small” - in defining the broadest goals and concepts and refining the smallest details. It branches like a tree, and each choice has ramifications, which may not be known in advance and this became particularly relevant to my very first discovery of Leonardo's own pen and ink drawings and especially of that which he himself imagined as DVODECEDRON ELEVA, which I have [BLOG]•since envisioned by way of my own copied version of same as the global core of my NEW YIN/YANG MODEL for an equally represented FEMALE/MALE UNITED representative assembly of the all the peoples of all the nations of Planet Earth as custodians of all the PASSENGERS of SPACESHIP EARTH as Buckminster Fuller himself so succinctly proposed.

Comment by Michael Grove on March 8, 2023 at 9:38

NEVER forgetting the multidimensional "SCIENTIFIC perspective" manifestation of Escher's Möbius strip, which for me re[PRESENTS]  a coming together of the entirety for everyone, of my own long since established views on the subject since my GCE 'A' level Physics, Maths Pure, Maths Applied and ART, studies at a recently opened Grammar School, which was shut down only five years after Linnie left to train as a radiographer and I as an Upper Airspace Area Radar Controller.

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