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within the SERENITY of ORDER

"There can be little doubt that
order has become a more important element in the competitive mix than it used to be. The frontier spirit of Britain's industrial revolution or of US twentieth-century capitalism, with ALL its vigour, can make great ships and create giant oil companies, but IT DOES NOT foster the meticulous attention to detail and marketing that has enabled Japan to flood the world with video-recorders.

The TOP-DOWN CONTROL by the bosses of Britain and America in the past has
not proved as effective as the BOTTOM-UP SENSE of RESPONSIBILITY generated
by the highly-educated workforce of Japan today.

But if the added value in societies comes increasingly from services - for example, the programmes which are shown on the video recorders as opposed to the manufacture of the VCRs themselves - then societies must foster CREATIVITY alongside ORDER.

At one extreme there is a society where people sit in rows and do what they

are told.  At the other there is one where everybody does their own thing.

will be to find a way of balancing the two ...

                                                                                    Hamish McRae

ALL great art, explores the tension between order and chaos, between  growth and stasis, particularly exemplified by the way Katsushika Hokusai beautifully captured all aspects of the fractal world in his creation of "The Great Wave".

The scientists of change have learned in recent years that the evolution of complex systems and their consequences can't be followed in the context of detailed cause & effect, because such systems are holistic, in that EVERYTHING affects EVERYTHING else. An understanding of these complex systems can only be established through a process of SEEING INTO their complexity and fractal geometry abundantly provides the mechanism by which this vision might be achieved.


For the ancient Greeks. "chaos" was the empty void  that

existed before the creation of the world and civilisation.


In confronting the orders of chaos, of growth and stability, it would appear that we

are now coming face to face with something which is buried in the very foundations

of HOMO SAPIENS' existence, which would lead one to believe that learning to

handle complexity means learning to live more intuitively, because intuition is

the key to making significant changes in complex systems, helping them

evolve and evolving with them.

The FUTURE can only be told ...

in the MOMENT by MOMENT ...

unravelling of the present




Creating Silence from Chaos as just one of the Lessons of Silence




First posted by Michael Grove @zaadz 26th May 2008

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Terrill : Spirit of butterfly
1 day later

Terrill  said

Beautiful Michael! So much is in the complexity of relations… I like how you have presented this world view. I wonder if my thoughts about celebrating neither here nor there would be a helpful concept in the telling of the future in the moment by moment unravelling of the present? Your work is so rich and complex that it provides a perfect example of the ideas that you are writing about!





martha : wildlygentle
1 day later

martha said

Ah! It's like surfing–gliding like a feather atop the waters of the stream, but KNOWING that you're the feather, and deciding where to stop for lunch. Do you think there's synchronicity happening here?

Michael : catalyst-producer
7 days later

Michael said

There can be NO BETTER FUTURE “VISION” of our collective awakening to THE REALITY of synchonicity, than Katsushika Hokusai's 36 Views of Mount Fuji.

Therein lies the wisdom of knowledge of understanding

just imagine surf-gliding ALL that THAT comprises ! …

and then, in the context of the entirety of the BIG PICTURE
reflect on the “verbal observations” of Jeremy Rifkin

” At first glance, terms like “perspective”, “scenarios”, “models”, “creative possibilities” appear to signal a newfound awareness by humanity of its own limitations, of its inability ever to fully grasp or comprehend the truths of the universe. NOT SO. It is not humility that animates the new cosmological jargon but bravado. When we take a closer look, the new vocabulary suddenly takes on an entirely new appearance, at once menacing and intoxicating. Perspectives, scenarios, models, creative possibilities. These are the words of authorship, the words of a creator, an architect, a designer. Humanity is abandoning the idea that the universe operates by ironclad truths because it no longer feels the need to be constrained by such fetters. Nature IS BEING made anew, this time by human beings.”


Samme : Prince of Rainbows<3
8 days later

Samme said

Reflecting upon this, I have postulated that there can be “serenity in chaos”. Change is constant and sometimes change is although slow can be chaotic but “serene”. Chaos can be beautiful if you know how to “ride the wave”. Just look at the billions of stars out there. That is serenity in chaos. Serenity in a sense that we are so far apart from it that it looks so beautiful and serene but chaotic in its own surrounding environment. If what we are looking at out there is what was happening millions of years ago, we don't know that in those galaxies right now also are flourishing civilizations. We are both looking at each other in outer space and both do not have a clue as to the mysteries of life. Indeed we are all interconnected.

Michael : catalyst-producer
8 days later

Michael said

ABSOLUTELY SO … which IS ALL part and parcel of the REALLY BIG PICTURE constant feed-back loop, itterative process, which ALWAYS results in A BIFURCATION POINT …
of course THE BIFURCATION POINT which HOMO SAPIENS IS NOW fast approaching will undoubtedly be a conscious awakening to, and an awareness of, syncronicity … beyond that THE SWITCHswitch on, tune in and drop out !!!

8 days later

cHAngeL said


There are no passengers on Spaceship Earth.
We are all crew. ~ Marshall McLuhan, 1964

On 5 March 1966, BOAC Flight 911, a Boeing 707, broke up in flight and crashed near Mount Fuji Gotemba New fifth station, shortly after departure from Tokyo International Airport. All 113 passengers and 11 crew members were killed in the disaster, which was attributed to extreme clear air turbulence caused by lee waves downwind of the mountain.

Perhaps if our crew truly listens at this time, our big wave will act as ONE love.

Love for our children's future on the planet.

But we must BE like a flock,
ALL land on the water,
and ACT now.



8 days later

cHAngeL said

Let the children put in their 2 sense worth.

Aren't they who the the change is for?

Who better to lead the crew.


“a mountain standing up shapely as an ear (ho) of a rice plant”

Listen to the children.

They are our air traffic controllers.

Michael : catalyst-producer
8 days later

Michael said

In the context of the fact that the meteorological aviation experts of 1966 were only just coming to terms with the inter-action of jet transport and the high level eco-system … nevertheless as reductionist minded scientists … it was not until aeroplanes started to fall out of the sky that they began to listen to the pilots who had long since been reporting the phenomenon which we now call clear-air turbulence … and, as Janie has so rightly brought to our attention, the words of Marshall McLuhan were then ringing in the ears of those scientists, namely that - There are no passengers on Spaceship Earth. WE ARE ALL CREW.

Even President Mugabe's speech in Rome today has a ring of truth within it.

To sense THE WORTH of our collective contributions to the survival of our species on earth we must indeed think of children as our gurus…and have no problem with that.

ALL we have to do is listen to them and learn from their example.

sanmugan : Seeker of truth
16 days later

sanmugan said

Every word of yours come with a force ncluding that fractal picture, it reminds me the tsunami, we had recently.

Endless Song : Beyond Words
about 1 month later

Endless Song said

chaos is order…perfect order… the mind just thinks thoughts like ” this should not be this way”… and even that is perfect too.

the What that drives chaos also is the same What that starts a meditation.

Michael : catalyst-producer
about 1 month later

Michael said

Truth never stays the same … IT IS ALWAYS CHANGING !

Terrill : Spirit of butterfly
about 1 month later

Terrill said

The video Indigenous Native American Prophecy you have shared on the other post is a great example of how truth is ever changing and our need to keep the balance. I would like to add a quoted that was gifted to me by a friend a couple of days ago…

Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money. ~Cree Indian Proverb

Michael : catalyst-producer
about 1 month later

Michael said

ABSOLUTELY SO … a proverb which rings loud in the ears of my family and friends, over the years, who no doubt have become weary from hearing me espouse it so much.

Michael : catalyst-producer
2 months later

Michael said

In the context of ”promoting sociability”, it is fitting that ”BOJO”, the new mayor of London, has agreed to a victory parade for the UK's returning Olympic HEROs.

Michael : catalyst-producer
3 months later

Michael said

In the context of our GLOBAL FINANCIAL FUTURE


IS INDEED playing itself out as a result of a …


of …

the present

Michael : catalyst-producer
9 months later

Michael said

IT IS THE “silent majority” of the peoples of our species, listening to the words of ”babes and innocents”, which constitutes the ”unknown force” behind the dynamism of chaos within the serenity of order

and as Nassim Nicholas Taleb has himself said

EVERYbody “knows” that you need more prevention than treatment but FEW reward ACTS of prevention and we glorify those who left their names in history books at the expense of those contributors about whom our books are silent.”


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Comment by Michael Grove on January 2, 2012 at 14:43

Running a social network is as challenging as it is rewarding ... especially in the context of Margaret Meade's statement that ...

“Never doubt that a small, group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”

As Elisabet Sahtouris has said in Ecosophy: Nature’s Guide to a Better World

In this truly cosmic model, the Greeks believed that if we knew how

the greater cosmos was organized, we would know how to organize

our human cosmos. The greater cosmos came out of chaos, which was

not seen as the disorder for which we use the word chaos, but as the

unpatterned no-thing-ness of the universal source, the infinite

potential (chaos, more as in today’s chaos theory) within which all

arises. Thus, the matter of how cosmos-as-order arose and functions

is of supreme importance for human life.   

Although ‘The Great Wave’ is often seen as typically Japanese, in fact

it mixes influences from both east and west. Hokusai’s imagination

had been captured in his youth by his discovery of European-style

perspective. Now, aged about seventy, he adapted European

perspective in a very inventive way, playing games in the image

between the relative sizes of the large storm wave in the foreground

and tiny Mount Fuji in the distance.

Japanese prints such as 'The Great Wave' influenced Western artists

such as Whistler, van Gogh and Monet. During the 20th century and

beyond, the image has spread even more widely into popular culture

and has been frequently replicated and adapted. It is even painted as

a mural on a house in Camberwell, South London. This British

Museum Exhibit is a unique opportunity to delve into the story

behind this iconic work, learn how Hokusai made ‘The Great Wave’,

and discover how the print has become a truly global inspiration.


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Comment by Michael Grove on September 5, 2012 at 18:58


The Chaos Point: The World at the Crossroads - by Ervin Laszlo. Charlottesville, VA

This is an inspirational book, a call for action, and a basis for hope. We have entered a window of opportunity that the author brilliantly illustrates using the concepts of chaos theory. Dr. Ervin Laszlo is a unique scientist who founded systems philosophy and general evolution theory. But he is also the founder and president of the Club of Budapest, an informal association of highly creative people who use their insight to enhance awareness of global problems and human opportunities.
The book starts with a Chinese proverb that warns, “If we do not change direction, we are likely to end up exactly where we are headed.” The author then summarizes the problems the world is now facing and their causes. He emphasizes that we are at a critical juncture in history. We now face a “decision-window.” We are headed on a path towards global breakdown where societies will experience accelerating terrorism, crime, wars, intolerance and an inhospitable biosphere for human life. Thus, there will either be a global breakdown of civilization or a breakthrough to a better future for our children and us.   

William C. Gough, Chairman, Emeritus
Foundation for Mind-Being Research
442 Knoll Drive, Los Altos, CA 94024
To send an email to Bill Gough click here

Comment by Michael Grove on January 7, 2013 at 8:40

You can view it as a technology race or a joint venture in the common interest. 

It hardly matters whichIf the Chinese can crack thoriumthe world will need less

oil, coal, and gas than feared. Wind turbines will vanish from our landscape. There

will less risk of a global energy crunch, less risk of resource wars, and less risk of

a climate tipping point.

Who can object to that?

Comment by torch mills on September 10, 2013 at 12:38

I see, that You have thoughtfully saved the Zaadz stuff.

I admire that. Although, I missed the golden era, of Zaadz,

I did browse some of it, on Old Gaia, before it went down.

I also browsed Siona's autobiology, and was blown away,

with Her ability to intimately expose Herself, in Her writings.

Very moving. I fell in love with Her soul, right there.

I think that - that was what Zaadz was, intimately You,

with all of your flaws, and loves, and beliefs, and desires, "out there",

and people, "loving it", and you, because they were doing the same thing.

kind of an online "greenwich village", with lots of diversity, and acceptance.

You would know best. How was it, for You ? It obviously left its mark on You.

I am disappointed that Facebook Zaadz didnt seem to generate the same kind of joy.

It seems like an alumni gathering place, but thats all, sad, really.

Everyone has gone off,diaspora, doing their own thing, which kills the synergy of Zaadz.

Anyway, that is my "take on it", what is yours ? Thanks, for taking an interest, in Me. 

Comment by Michael Grove on September 10, 2013 at 16:31

I heartily agree with all of your comments about zaadz/siona/et al and particularly the synergy

that was zaadz, but as I have intimated below unless a social networking environment can take

advantage of every capability of the WEB 2.0 protocol - before we even start considering the use

of WEB 3.0 - to simulate real methods of open and disparate discussions, down the pub so to 

speak, it is doomed to failure from a truly synergetic stand-point. Needless to say the seed that 

was zaadz has been sown and blossomed in many ways, and although the window of opportunity

which WEB 2.0 presented is now almost closed, who knows what the future of the WEB and its

potential 10 billion users will bring !!!??? 

During the early part of my training as a civilian pilot/air traffic controller in the 1960's I was first

introduced to the mind-blowing experience of "flying" a de Havilland Trident Simulator. It was

mind-blowing for me, as a dyslexic 3D thinker, because my own vision as a child was of a future 

time when we would be able to personally experience a simulation of the reality such that we 

would not be able to tell the difference between the simulation and the reality. It had been 

because of the support from my parents and their parents that I had succeeded in getting into 

that simulator in the first place, but along the way I had been exposed to all of their diverse 

spiritual & scientific beliefs despite the fact that they all subscribed to a similar set of values and 

principles. As a result I was set on my own journey of discovery for the scientific reasoning for  

mine and others personal experiences of spiritual connectivity. My eventual qualification as a joint 

civilian/military air traffic controller took me to places I could not have even imagined - to the

point where I was being invited by the likes of IBM to present to them personal computer driven 

multi-media simulations of future 3D global radar scenarios. 

During the nascency of the world-wide web, discussions with Hewlett Packard, Kodak & Phillips

suggested the possibility of establishing a very powerful consumer driven social networking

environment, based on discussions about the implications and applications of the still to be 

ratified WEB 2.0 protocol. As has often been the case, in my experience, existing companies have

been slow to react to the invariably small window of opportunity with which they are faced and

so it was with HP, Phillips and then Kodak. In the meantime the likes of Friendster and Myspace

appeared on the scene without incorporating the really powerful development capabilities which

the WEB 2.0 protocol provided for.  So it was during 2005 that I became aware of a team of people

who were fully WEB 2.0 savvy, led by a man called Brian Johnson, working on a project called

ZAADZ.  From the day of BETA launch I watched from afar and became mightily impressed by

every aspect of the ZAADZ initiative and so it was after some nearly six months I plunged in


In the meantime I continue to cherish what was and try to NOT forget that we are what we are

in some small and even significant way, because of our TIME@zaadz.

Comment by Michael Grove on May 22, 2017 at 9:46

          There’s a curious thing about Katsushika Hokusais Under the Wave off Kanagawa •

          the renowned Japanese woodblock print that has come to be known, simply, as

          The Great Wave. Although the composition is dominated by a monstrous ridge of

          saltwater, which rises from the ocean like the Leviathan, the “starof the picture is,

          in fact, the distant, snow-capped peak of Mt  Fuji, visible on the horizon.

Comment by Michael Grove on August 8, 2017 at 13:34

  This particular BBC Magazine Story relates to Dominic Swords, who wanting to shake-up his

  life in 1997, went on a personal development course. One part of it required him to lead a

  community project. "People were abseiling down buildings to raise money for charity. I'm not

  the sort of person who does that one bit," he said. He wasn't an artist, but he always liked the

  idea of painting a mural. "I remember going past them with my parents, looking up and just

  thinking they were the coolest things ever." He owned a house with a wall big enough to

  paint one on, so he decided that would be his project. "That was the easy bit," he says.

  Deciding what to paint was harder. One night, he discussed options with a friend. He had

  decided it had to be something natural • murals of people "always look rubbish", he says •

  and had been thinking about a tree, swaying in the wind. But the friend said, "What about

  a wave?" And then both had the same thought... "HOW about that Japanese ONE ?"

  MY OWN personal BBC STORY, however, relates to my Journey of LiFE, during the time

  of my involvement with Acorn and the BBC Computer Literacy Project. 

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